"If it sounds like a lot of work, it is," Thiele says. They share similar interior layouts, and both are built on the same semi-displacement hull— the difference is on the outside where the 36 MY’s raised aft deck provides a roomy platform for deck chairs, etc. And it is Answer, Part 3. Parts are available, although it may take some determined scrounging, particularly for the systems GB added to the Deere block it converted for marine use. They were ready, however. This boat is maintained, in good condition.Broker: Christian DULOT + 33 6. They often publish newsletters that include notices of yachts for sale. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, it built a line of pilothouse yachts called Alaskan. I stood on the upper platform looking down on the line of GB36 and GB42 boats slowly coming together. This minimizes reengineering costs, not to mention keeping tabs on what people want. In order to truly follow this story about what defines a Grand Banks, I next had to take a little trip. The Yin and Yang of American Marine. What is it? Remove nail plugs, using a drill to remove the nail heads, and a hollow screw extractor to pull the nails. Be patient. Generally speaking, a fiberglass GB 36 in average condition, built between 1975 and 1979, can be found in the price range of $80,000 to $120,000, according to Ely. GRAND BANKS 36 SEDAN RIVIERA motor yacht for sale | De Valk … BETWEEN 1965,WHEN THE FIRST GRAND BANKS SPLASHED INTO THE water at Hong Kong, and 1973,American Marine launched more than 1,400 GB and Alaskan yachts. I've always loved the look and style of the Grand He will install a fish finder, to improve chances of landing a salmon. Experienced on the water and in the engine room, Terry is an avid J-24 sailor, and has done his share of yacht deliveries. It took a lot of effort to find it, but we are completely happy with La Buona Fortuna. Behind him teak strips lay in a pile, each numbered, already properly trimmed and sized. Maybe it's the rock music. American Marine would later revive the express boat in 1993 with introduction of the 38' Eastbay, a fast Ray Hunt-designed yacht powered with a pair of powerful Cat diesels. Who built it? Recaulk. Design changes are kept on file at Grand Banks, which, after thirty-some years of operation, include most everything that can be done to a Grand Banks. Search our full range of used Grand Banks 36 Classic on www.theyachtmarket.com. Newer boats have island berths in the aft master stateroom. The gel coat gloss will dim, colors will become chalky, brightwork will dry and crack, and the engine room equipment will suffer from a lack of use. The channels were only 1/4-inch deep, too shallow to hold caulk. When the hull and deck are scheduled for assembly, these massive pieces are wheeled onto the production floor. The Laguna died, while the trawlers kept chugging along, powered by thrifty Ford Lehman, Perkins, GM and John Deere diesels. Until 1973 the GB36 was made of wood. Find Grand Banks 36 Classic boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. I never realized just how many teak grates go aboard a Grand Banks. (How easy that is to prevent: Take a two-liter pop bottle, cut off the pouring spot and split the large part down the middle. But it's not limitied to styling. The engine room is spotless and odor free. Grand Banks 36 Classic . I mentioned that to Bruce. Spray was launched in 1963 and a year later the Newtons abandoned their custom yacht building to focus on producing the first of a line of boats that would be known as Grand Banks. Wood boats can smell of mold and mildew, and diesel fuel that has impregnated bilge planks. Each is built to very high standards by one company, American Marine, and the only real difference between them is duration, actual construction time. as well as a new galley stove, and new electrical panel. The Grand Banks 36 Classic, built by American Marine, is known as a seaworthy and performant boat, perfect for ocean cruises. Bruce told me his workers don't just knock out tables and other wood products. After 25 years, fuel tanks could be ready for replacement. "This puts me in a better position to maintain and repair these things on my own in the future. Unsatisfactory. Many GB dealers have gone online and list their brokerage boats on a web page. Fold it over the stuffing box and quit worrying about salt splashes on the tanks.). That early model is easily identifiable. The small cars are mostly a locally-built automobile called a Proton, yet every tenth car is a shiny new Mercedes Benz. The design may have been too radical for the market, as some believe. He has spent the past two years restoring a 1966 32-foot GB (Hull #16 in the 32 line). Most problems occur because a boat has been neglected, because it has not been painted and bedded, because window leaks have not been fixed, because its mechanical systems have not been upgraded and babied, because it has been ignored. Encouraged by friends, I took a ferry to Bremerton to see for myself. In the automobile world, what would be its equivalent? American Marine unfortunately chose to install a marine version of the General Motors Toro Flow diesel, in V6 and V8, and turbocharged and naturally aspirated models. "I thought that maybe I'd spend $60,000 to $70,000, and after a bunch of work, it would be a nice 32. They enjoy each other, and there is a feeling of comraderie among the owners. All Rights Reserved. Blake bought a basketcase for $15,000. All Rights Reserved. Grand Banks 36 Classic . 941-914-9217 × Save This Boat. Pre-owned 1964 Grand Banks 36 Classic trawler (1,000 hrs) for sale in Kingston, Washington (near Shoreline). I set out to find the answer to this question, and, as it turned out, my quest would take me literally around the world. "I bought it knowing a lot was wrong," Blake says. The brow of the bridge and bridge seats also are common problem areas. Current plans are to open a new Singapore facility on the NE coast in Loyang, at the base of Serangoon Harbour. By the time his restoration is complete, he will have $200,000 in the project. Contact. "Five years later we are very happy with our choice. Finding her was like stumbling upon a low mileage and cherry 1955 Thunderbird convertible up on blocks, under cover, in an air-conditioned barn somewhere in South Dakota. It is quite a juggling act. Constantly rising prices for new boats enhances the value of wood GBs, too. The hulls were planked with heavy, durable mahogany; the frames were yacal, a tough tropical hardwood. "That was a little high, but I couldn't pass on the quality. Off by himself, one man was busy building teak grates. When I looked back at this fellow later, his progress (slow and steady as it was) was quite noticeable. She's on the Great Lakes now and every time she motors into a moorage someone probably asks, "What the heck is that?". John and Maureen keep their boat in Seattle. Normally, it will be a 120-hp Ford Lehman diesel, although American Marine also used John Deere and Caterpillar engines. Spray was the prototype of the line that would succeed. Eventually, they came across Emerald Isle, a 36-foot 1973 Classic model. They are not often on the market and usually are priced in the range of $200,000/$250,000, well above our arbitrary price cap Those big yachts, however, along with the entire fleet of Alaskan pilothouse cruisers, represent the best on the market for those looking for a boat to live aboard. In anticipation of this, American Marine opened a brand new sister facility in 1995, a short distance away in Johor Bahru, Malaysia. Each was meticulously hand built of wood by Asian shipwrights. "Firstly, the design is that of a conventional style boat. An expert looking across a crowded summer anchorage can't tell the difference between a well-kept 1973 woodie and a 1993 fiberglass yacht. She's a 32-footer, built in 1973. And that is intentional. Once he finished screwing down the teak, he moved aft a short distance, pulling his tools with him, where he started the process over. I would have to travel to American Marine, and discover the source of the magic. I witnessed Quality Control people, clipboards in hand, swarming all over a new yacht, making sure the new trawler was up to snuff...that it was a Grand Banks. At the completion of each project, no matter how big or small, the work is checked and signed off by a Quality Control person. We know what was done, and who did it, and that makes me feel good," John explained. I've been able to save money by doing some of the grunt work and I've learned all the details of the systems they've installed or worked on. Costs may soar out of sight if there is no owner control. It is very expensive to build a boat this way, with teak floors and all, and the result is a traditional boat that people want. Many have been pampered and/or lightly used. Bernard Sim, Senior Shipping Officer in American Marine's Planning & Shipping Department, was quite articulate in answering my question. Even after 30 years, a yacht engine may have less than 6,000 hours of running time on the clock. All furniture is sealed, varnished, or painted. "I think my engineering and design background have allowed me to get into the details much farther than most owners. Wood Grand Banks can be affordable yachts, he says. What is the future? GB36s can be had with one or two engines, although two are more common. "We have a mission statement in the PDC that we will continue to build conventional style boats to the highest quality.". Designers at Grand Banks for many years apparently didn't know that people liked to sleep together, so master staterooms on the 36 and 42s usually had narrow berths on either side. The enthusiasm of the management. This Grand Banks 36 is the best one we have seen in years ! There were men and projects going on all across this massive concrete floor, everyone on some mission, driving ahead the assembly of Grand Banks trawlers. Roberts and Phillips then work each issue with the appropriate people back at American Marine. Loyalty is extremely high, which alone speaks volumes. This is nasty work, and the men doing it are in air-conditioned body suits in a closed space to mimimize health or envionmental damage. Grand Banks 36 Sedan Cruiser. Gobs of grates. The GB36 is not being built this year, partly because of market demand for larger boats, which yield better profits. In mid-1973 the line was switched to fiberglass although the wood and fiberglass models looked virtually identical until 1988 when they changed the molds. We've all heard the Chinese proverb about every journey beginning with a single step. Forward is the stateroom, with Vberths, and a small head with shower. Others would find a teasing hint in the shape of the forward trunk cabin, with its teak trim and grab rails. Late last year the boat went into a shed for a paint job, some woodwork and for replacement or refurbishment of the bronze through-hull fittings. Not one. The bonding system likely is tired. However, Hill adds, the chine block probably doesn't need fixing for boats that cruise peaceful, inland waters. It is a sign of the times. "You can't walk away from it. American Marine's yard has a decidedly old world feel, look, and smell. But as the boat was dismantled the work list lengthened, particularly as structural rot was found under the deck and on the flybridge. American Bruce Livingston used to be general manager for Little Harbor Yachts in Taiwan. Inside, the fabrics and vinyl are fresh, clean, and original. For most of us, it will not be an affordable boat. Patiently and methodically, he set a strip of teak next to the one alongside, totally focused on the job at hand. Dealers and their brokers also should offer valuable assistance in sorting the good from the bad. I suggest Grand Banks compares to Rolls Royce, rather than, say, a Mercedes Benz, or BMW. They were positioning resin-rich fiberglass cloth in the transom area, the boat still some time away from completion. Visit other 36 and 42 yachts and you'll see a variety of similar solutions to the odd bed arrangement: double beds on the center line, or athwartship, for example. This requires a good chain of internal communications, which is well-defined at Grand Banks. A graduate of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, MD, with a Masters Degree from the University of London, Bruce didn't ascend through the ranks of a boat yard. "I've also upgraded and added lots of small things, such as a new engine room hatch, folding mast for my covered slip, a shower exhaust fan, intermittent pantograph windshield wipers, new AC and DC panels, new davits, a new galley sink with modern fixtures, and filtered drinking water. You don't take a Rolls Royce off roading, either. In the Pacific Northwest, rain drips in around poorly-sealed windows to create science projects in the side walls. The pilothouse is up a couple of steps from the saloon. I watched a crew lay up a GB46 hull, giving life to a new Grand Banks trawler. When I left Southeast Asia it seemed that I had found several answers to my question. Her owners deserve four gold stars for giving her wise and loving care for so many years. Figuring out wiring is hard enough when you are working alone-imagine doing it in the midst of a rowdy New Year's Party!?! Steps down lead to a port stateroom with two big bunks and to a master stateroom forward (it has a double bed). Terry was in a meeting and would have to call me right back. She also has Vosper active stabilizers. Fluent in Chinese, he can converse simultaneously with Singaporeans, Malaysians, and Americans. If it's not on the job card, it never happened or wasn't ordered. The burden of such single-threaded communications is considerable, but worth the effort. They routinely cruise the Inland Passage of the Pacific Northwest, often reaching Southeast Alaska. A Grand Banks look like a Grand Banks, always has. That year they commissioned Kenneth Smith, another well-known marine architect, to design a 36-foot, diesel-powered cruising boat. My wondering is over and now I know what makes a Grand Banks a Grand Banks. PMM calls them "affordable boats,"but there's nothing secondrate or quality-challenged here.These trawlers make wonderful cruising yachts and comfortable liveaboards, and, over time, we'll review va rious makes and models of these so-called "affordable boats.". Do listen to Scott Blake. ", Blake's boat has a list of classic problems, including extensive rot in the port wall of the deckhouse and the bridge. American Marine is located on 16 acres of waterfront property on the south shore of the island, where it has been building Grand Banks since 1968. However, once a wood boat has a tightly clinging coat of paint, once the hardware and deck fittings have been bedded, once corrosion control has been reestablished and once the engine room has been brought up to snuff, most of the problems that can damage a woodie have been brought under control. A few of the Chantyman line are still cruising, and every time one shows up at a Grand Banks rendezvous, everyone again asks, "What the heck is that?". Settees face each other aft. Don't expect it to come back, however. The receiving Grand Banks dealer gets a fully operational trawler that needs a minimum of reassembly, apart from dealer-installed equipment. The document follows the boat through construction, and is used by engineering, production, purchasing, quality control, and sales departments. Initially, everyone worked by himself or in small groups spread out over the thousands of square feet of floor real estate, but all activity slowly centralized into the areas immediately surrounding seven yachts. Obviously, anyone shopping for a woodie wants to identify problems BEFORE writing a check. Wong is Chief Operation Officer at American Marine. It is difficult for U.S. residents to buy stock in the company, but some banks and brokerages will accept orders for stock on the Singapore exchange. Motorbikes blast around in a constant chain saw whine of two-stroke smoke. He has lots of experience with what works on a boat, and this experience is invaluable when working with buyers in planning a new boat. Talk with owners of wood GBs and tell them of your search, give them your name, and ask to have it passed on to still more owners. As the economy staggered and interest rates reached into double digits, business expansion faltered and Laguna production ceased. During my sailing days I too noticed the mystique, the long lines at the boat shows, the quiet majesty of a well-found Grand Banks motoring slowly by. Yachts of this millennium probably are glossier, sexier, and more sophisticated, but at heart they are no different than the first woodies delivered nearly 35 years ago. The Singapor e yard's thirty-year lease is up this year. The proportions are right, which is why a Grand Banks just looks better than other boats. A 32 is small. This particular sale took about two years to close, which is common. They worked hard in their search for a live aboard, judging carefully the space they would need by looking at many boats. The grates were as pretty as the furniture. Y.P. I left my bags in the office and went for a stroll around this famous, but soon-to-be-history boat yard. Their persistence and patience was rewarding. Some of the men worked in small groups, others fluttered around inside the boat doing God knows what. Simultaneously, however, the world's trawler builders, including American Marine, were praising the fuel economy of a low horsepower, singleengine boat that could run a season on a tank of diesel fuel. They plan to do the exterior teak themselves, and John has already refinished most of the interior teak. The Loyang yard will be much smaller, only 35,000 square feet as compared to the 100,000 in Pasir Gudang. Taller crew members need to remember to duck when stepping through the saloon door into the cockpit and when stepping down to the forward stateroom. The schedule for interior varnish is four coats of gloss with a top coat of satin finish. The company is developing a new pilothouse boat, to be called the Aleutian. Not all old Grand Banks yachts are wrecks. We only produce what we need right now.". An evolving mission to build the highest quality, traditional style trawler yacht with handbuilt craftsmanship. Restoration of Black Opal has taken four years since he found the boat in Long Beach, California. All hull and deck molding will move to Malaysia, and Loyang will be dedicated to finishing the GB49 and larger, more custom, trawlers. All of the handwork makes a difference.". Water leaking around the deck fill plates is equally destructive to the top of a fuel tank. I spoke with Derik Lye, Senior Production Manager at the Singapore yard. Terry is also typical, for a GB broker that is. Starting from the top, trouble on a wood GB is usually first found in the plywood used to build the deckhouse. That told me something about the man. Locate Grand Banks boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader! In fact, 80 percent of new Grand Banks are ordered with some level of customization, especially in the larger yachts, although Grand Bank's George Sass told me such custom work represents only about five percent of the total boat. Throw in wet lines and fenders and other damp stuff and decay will show in the plywood base of the hatch cover, and possibly in soft planking at the transom corners. Throughout my time in Singapore, I saw traditional building skills: slow, steady, and everything handmade. There are seats for Christopher near the helm and in the galley. "I saw a lot of junk," he said of his six-month search for a small Grand Banks. He keeps her in a house at the Bremerton Yacht Club. These answers fit together like pieces of a puzzle. The answer to my question wasn't going to be found solely in Southport or Newport Beach. John Shearer and Maureen Carr of Portland, Oregon, were dining in a restaurant on Seattle's waterfront more than a year ago while they talked about buying their first boat. It struck me as a kind of Far Eastern Disney World, with beautiful flowers everywhere, gorgeous architecture, and spotlessly clean. Save This Boat. John and Maureen are budgeting boat ownership. It is much easier to build a production interior this way, especially hard to reach sections, and there aren't little piles of sawdust in the bilges. "You just can't build boats right if you're not listening to loud music.". Her brightwork is flawless. Water seeps in around windows, eventually causing rot in the plywood side walls. Although Grand Banks yachts have maintained the same classic hull design from the beginning, variety has also been an important part of the history of American Marine. But then its perfect wood construction, the wire lifelines and stout stanchions, and the big cockpit would ring bells. They spent about $10,000 for new injectors, new engine mounts, a heat exchanger, alignment, and Racor filters. Then they moved her to Seattle, for even more refurbishing. "The traditional profile has something to do with it. Pallets of grates, grates of every shape and size. Grand Banks 36 – Old Salt Page 3 of 11 Tender and Tender Motor Owners Personal Effects Kayaks Charts and Books Disclaimer The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. The engine room was a mess, plagued by leaking fuel. I called Terry Ionta in Yarmouth, and popped the question to the man who had begun this journey with me. One of the last woodies. When the new owners take delivery of their new Grand Banks, they can be assured their trawler has been through numerous checkpoints to ensure rigid quality standards. "But not mandatory. Since the late 1950s we have delivered thousands of Grand Banks Yachts to happy customers around the world. She is not a show boat and needs some cosmetic attention. A True Beauty and ready for new owner. Number One Ownership of La Buona Fortuna, a 46-foot Alaskan, has been a happy experience for Dan Roach, Ellen Roth and their son Christopher. The average length of service at American Marine in Singapore is eighteen years, and 58 percent of the workers on the production floor have over fifteen years with the company. What can I say-he did grate work! The facility was built from the ground up in 1995, with 100,000 square feet of floor space available on eleven acres. "Time will tell.". There were two models, a 10 meter (33') and an 11.5 meter (a 38' speedster priced at $72,000 in 1972). And they often do. He alternated between two air-driven tools, one to drill a measured hole through the teak and fiberglass deck, the other a power screwdriver to fasten the teak to the deck, while his foot held the teak strip against a wood spacer to ensure its proper alignment along the deck. Larger engines, electronics, heat and air conditioning, and other goodies and taxes will kick the final price somewhere close to $625,000. Wait a minute. "We have put 1,500 hours on the engines in five years; we often take long cruising weekends, leaving on Thursdays and returning Monday morning. He and Maureen never stop asking questions of dealers, repairmen, or other boat owners. Cockpit lazarettes on the Classics and Europas harbor the bugs that cause rot. And yet I've now got a great boat for under $150,000 that is clearly better than most of the 1980s fiberglass GBs I see for sale. Loud country western music mixed with the sounds of boat building, the strong smell of teak and fiberglass heavy in the humid air. "Well, it seems to me that what makes a Grand Banks a Grand Banks is the lifestyle. Automation can not give you that... "Boat building is somewhat unique because it really doesn't lend itself to automation, and to find quicker, less labor-intensive methods of building the boat would result in it not being a Grand Banks.". I've also had the opportunity to learn the basics from some great craftsmen.". There must have been fifteen men working in the confined spaces of this boat, tools and parts everywhere in the incomplete boat. This is something that just can't be put in by an automated process. Once again, other builders copied success and introduced similar express cruisers to the boating market. Livingston would like to have more fiberglass work done this way, as it ensures the best possible bond. Supervisors wore collared sport shirts, so it was easy to spot them as they moved from work team to individual worker, checking progress, offering suggestions, answering questions, all the time ensuring steady progress. New office complexes sit next to shacks with corrugated roofs. I saw folding teak tables, sanded but not yet varnished. Perhaps the decision was to concentrate on the boat for which American Marine was best known-the Grand Banks. They keep everything running on schedule, integrating current tasks with the next, anticipating and solving problems so the different departments are not left waiting for each other. Bruce has introduced some modern improvements onto the production floor in Malaysia. It was a total mess. A Seiko is well made and is probably actually more accurate. Limber chains probably are broken and the limber holes plugged with dirt. I think what's special about Grand Banks is the lifestyle people enjoy on them.". Carpenters and their tools fill the adjoining carpentry shop. In 1975, control passed to a group of investors headed by Bob Livingston, who continues as chairman today. She has suffered some problems with rot, which have been repaired, and was to have been painted over the summer. The Republic of Singapore is a thriving global hub for Southeast Asia, even though it is only slightly more than three times the size of Washington, DC. "I said, if we get a boat it has to be cute like that," she remembers. If you casually pick up even a small piece of boat hardware, such as a deck cleat waiting for installation, you will find a little sticker with an American Marine label title "QC Passed" with the date and initials of the person who checked it. Grates, grates, and more grates. Of course, we were naive boat buyers and totally underestimated what it would eventually mean," Thiele recalls. Later, an image formed in my mind while I absorbed the sights and sounds at American Marine in Singapore. And every one of these customers has a story to tell.". On GBs, the fuel tanks are outboard of the shaft logs and salt water sprayed on the tanks quickly causes rust. Hostvedt found his boat in a newspaper. In almost every cove, harbor, bay and inlet you’re sure to find some of these fine vessels still cruising the seas. Bob Livingston was expecting my question. The accent color might have been sea foam green; American Marine used it generously in those early years, too. "If we had spent $130,000 on the fiberglass boat we would have had to live with it the way it was.". I don't think there is any company, in any industry, that has better customers. It does take more skill to paint a wood boat than to clean and polish fiberglass. Despite this extensive list of layouts and options, Grand Banks is similar to many of today's production builders in that customers are also asking for additional custom work. I learned that once a job card is created for a new boat, and a slot allocated in the schedule, many concurrent projects begin. Another place to start is the Internet. While some contractors recommended covering the teak, Drew Bowen at Landfall Marine in Seattle came up with a plan that worked. To Singapore. "I had owned a 36- foot Monk for 30 years and I demanded perfection and looked for that. Each completed module is later trimmed, all edges and underneath surfaces sealed, epoxied or painted, and wires run for lighting, bow thruster control cables, and electrical outlets. I spoke about the old and new with Bob Livingston (no relation to Bruce), President of American Marine. The boat had been sold, but that deal collapsed. Both the hull and mechanical surveys were good. The bill was about $30,000. 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